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autorate bug

Postby js2002 » Tue Aug 24, 2010 2:58 am

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Re: autorate bug

Postby WhiteRider » Tue Aug 24, 2010 4:44 am

What do you mean, exactly?
You can't delete an icon, and I can delete the rule associated with #13.
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Re: autorate bug

Postby js2002 » Tue Aug 24, 2010 5:00 am

try to delete the rule inside 13.

Its buggy, maybe only at my pc because i have the vpip colored stats etc from an olde kraada hud...

I saw that I can edit the ate file, so im fine....

If u have time:

Im making a tutorial fullring autorate:

1 to 6 matter I ll sort it here and post the ate file below:

1 FISH CS Loose-Passive/Passive
"VP$IP",">","18",""|"PFR/VP$IP","<","0.66",""|"Total AFq","<","30",""|"WTSD",">","28",""|
2 FISH lowWTSD
"VP$IP",">","18",""|"PFR/VP$IP","<","0.66",""|"Total AFq","<","30",""|"WTSD","<","28",""|
3 LAG Loose-Aggressive/Aggressive
"VP$IP",">","18",""|"PFR/VP$IP",">=","0.66",""|"Total AFq",">","30",""|"WTSD","<","28",""|"3Bet Preflop",">=","3",""|
4 TAG Tight-Aggressive
"VP$IP","<=","18",""|"PFR/VP$IP",">=","0.66",""|"Total AFq",">","30",""|"WTSD","<","28",""|"3Bet Preflop",">=","1",""|
5 NIT Tight-Passive/Passive
"VP$IP","<=","12",""|"PFR/VP$IP",">=","0.66",""|"Total AF","<","3",""|
6 ROCK Tight-Passive/Aggressive
"VP$IP","<=","10",""|"PFR/VP$IP",">=","0.66",""|"Total AF",">=","3",""|

These are just the first basic rules for beginners and dont want to throw to much players out (f.e. 3bets are verly low)
What do u think? How should I sort priority? Is it good like that? I dont know but I guess 6 is done before 5 before 4 ...


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2 FISH CS Loose-Passive/Passive 1 "VP$IP",">","18",""|"PFR/VP$IP","<","0.66",""|"Total AFq","<","30",""|"WTSD",">","28",""|
3 Tight-Aggressive/Aggressive 13
4 Semi-Loose-Aggressive/Aggressive 12
5 Semi-Loose-Aggressive/Passive 11
6 FISH lowWTSD 2 "VP$IP",">","18",""|"PFR/VP$IP","<","0.66",""|"Total AFq","<","30",""|"WTSD","<","28",""|
8 Loose-Aggressive/Passive 10
9 ROCK Tight-Passive/Aggressive 6 "VP$IP","<=","10",""|"PFR/VP$IP",">=","0.66",""|"Total AF",">=","3",""|
7 Semi-Loose-Passive/Aggressive 7
10 LAG Loose-Aggressive/Aggressive 3 "VP$IP",">","18",""|"PFR/VP$IP",">=","0.66",""|"Total AFq",">","30",""|"WTSD","<","28",""|"3Bet Preflop",">=","3",""|
11 Not Sure Yet 14
12 Semi-Loose-Passive/Passive 9
13 NIT Tight-Passive/Passive 5 "VP$IP","<=","12",""|"PFR/VP$IP",">=","0.66",""|"Total AF","<","3",""|
14 Loose-Passive/Aggressive 8
15 TAG Tight-Aggressive 4 "VP$IP","<=","18",""|"PFR/VP$IP",">=","0.66",""|"Total AFq",">","30",""|"WTSD","<","28",""|"3Bet Preflop",">=","1",""|
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Re: autorate bug

Postby kraada » Tue Aug 24, 2010 8:51 am

That shouldn't make a difference - I can delete that rule as well.

I'm afraid I can't really help with autorate rules per se as I've never found any that I've personally liked. But in terms of order, rule 1 is checked first, then rule 2, etc.
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Re: autorate bug

Postby js2002 » Tue Aug 24, 2010 9:06 am

kraada wrote:That shouldn't make a difference - I can delete that rule as well.

I'm afraid I can't really help with autorate rules per se as I've never found any that I've personally liked. But in terms of order, rule 1 is checked first, then rule 2, etc.


This cant be!
I put VPIP > 20 Rule in 1 -> icon X
I put VPIP > 10 Rule in 2 -> icon Y

U say first rule 1, so everybody with VPIP >20 become X and then the all switch to Y because 20 also > 10.
at the end all with VPIP >10 are Y. But thats not true, I testet it. You can retest that.

I make a short video now about this.
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Re: autorate bug

Postby js2002 » Tue Aug 24, 2010 9:16 am

Appendix:

See in the video: there are still people in group X. If Rule 2 (VPIP >10) is the last, this cant be. They would all have become Y.
2. Why does my VPIP always jump to the other stat "VPIP colored"?

http://rapidshare.com/files/414843633/ccccccccccccc.wmv


Appendix B:

see the first mentioned BUG:

sideffects at delete and save.

http://rapidshare.com/files/414844510/sideeffectpt3.wmv

SRY VID1 in appended in front of VID2 ! so overun 1:42min
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Re: autorate bug

Postby kraada » Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:38 am

You're misunderstanding - if rule 1 is just VP$IP > 20 and rule 2 is VP$IP > 10 then everyone with > 20 ends up with type 1 and everyone with 10 - 20 ends up with type 2. Otherwise everyone would be type 2. The rules are tested in order starting with 1, if a player matches, that's the auto-rate icon they get, and the other ones aren't tested for that player at all.

I don't know why it's defaulting to VP$IP - Colored for you though.
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Re: autorate bug

Postby js2002 » Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:52 am

Ok I understand now, sry that theres no concrete manual about that topic.

But how do I have to work now?

low prios should have many rules so that the higher prios (rules there) also have a chance to match?!
Or how do I have to sort the prios?
f.e. my own ate file the 6 classes.

EDIT:

Example: The Rock doesnt matches often here because the TAG "matches some rocks away" right? (only those rocks with WTSD >=28 will be rock in my def I guess)
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Re: autorate bug

Postby kraada » Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:47 pm

You're right about your Rocks though you could also get some people with high 3-bet numbers or lower AFqs (AFq and AF don't always match up after all).

The way I'd think about it is like this: The rules that go off first you want to sort people into the most important category you can think of - if those players have those tendencies you wouldn't want them going anywhere else. Like if you want a category for VP$IP >= 40 - who cares what other stats they have at that point?
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Re: autorate bug

Postby js2002 » Tue Aug 24, 2010 1:18 pm

kraada wrote:You're right about your Rocks though you could also get some people with high 3-bet numbers or lower AFqs (AFq and AF don't always match up after all).

The way I'd think about it is like this: The rules that go off first you want to sort people into the most important category you can think of - if those players have those tendencies you wouldn't want them going anywhere else. Like if you want a category for VP$IP >= 40 - who cares what other stats they have at that point?


Didnt understand the bold part, sry.
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